Sunday, July 29, 2012

Mali graced with Shari'a law

Nothing says primitive apes more than reactionary 'Islamists' carrying out 7th-century tribal desert punishments in the 21st century. Hell, I don't think even apes would do this to their own kind.

Now they have taken over Mali.
A spokesman for the radical Islamic group controlling northern Mali says a couple who had an adulterous relationship was stoned to death this weekend in the town of Aguelhok.

Sanda Abou Mohamed, a spokesman for the group Ansar Dine, told The Associated Press by telephone on Sunday that the couple was executed according to Shariah law.

A resident of the northern city of Kidal, who had spoken to witnesses in nearby Aguelhok, said the man and woman were buried up to their necks, then pelted with stones until they died earlier Sunday. The resident requested anonymity because he feared for his safety.
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I still don't really get why Islamists get upset the most by intimate adult relationships, 'adulterous' or not. They never seem to get as upset about murder, bombings of innocent civilians, plunder, robbery, slavery, poverty, but nature forbid that they find out about two adults in a marriage-less relationship. It tends to stir the most primitive blood lust urges in them.

39 comments:

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
      "I still don't really get why Islamists get upset the
      most by intimate adult relationships, 'adulterous' or
      not.
"

It's a ‘control’ issue.  Sexual frustration leads to emotional tension which the tyrants can exploit and can hope to channel.  (See Aldous Huxley's novel 1984; this is not a new trick nor one particularly unique to religiously rooted tyrannies.)  Additionally, it reveals their current level of control over the population.  People who do not accept being controlled are obviously a potential source for a challenge to the tyrants' power.  So, they get a twofer there.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
And, on another topic, I see that the Assad regime's assault on Allepo has begun in earnest now.

Bridget said...

Here in the US, wannabe controllers long ago lost access to food and sex as instruments to attempt to control the population. They have striven mightily to control our thoughts and expression through the culture of political correctness. And the current economic situation has spawned widespread economic dependency that is ripe for exploitation by those who desire control.

Bridget said...

I would also observe that, in societies in which women are not educated, not allowed to work outside the home, and not allowed to own property, they have no intrinsic economic value.  (except, possibly, for the lucky few who are young and attractive...a happy state of affairs that doesn't last very long in such societies)  

Their families and communities (tribes) have a strong interest in controlling their sexual behavior so that they do not have out of wedlock children and become a further economic burden.  I've always assumed that this is the reason underlying the cult of virginity so prevalent in these societies and, indeed, in the US up until sometime in the sixties.  We now have freely available abortion, birth control, Uncle Sugar's welfare, and our women can be educated, hold jobs, and own property.  Consequently, there is much less interest in controlling their sexual behavior.

As to adultery, since it is usually just the women who are stoned and murdered, I have always assumed that it is a method by which insecure husbands, who know full well that they couldn't satisfy or hold on to their wives were they allowed to have jobs, etc., control their wives and insure that the children of the marriage are truly theirs.  Since there is not even the pretense of love in most of their arranged marriages, what's an insecure man to do but band together with all of his fellows and make sure their women think twice before seeking satisfaction elsewhere?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I still don't really get why Islamists get upset the most by intimate adult relationships, 'adulterous' or not.

Jealousy. They aren't getting any.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Syrian rebels take miliary base

Bruno said...

[zeyad] "They never seem to get as upset about murder, bombings of innocent civilians, plunder, robbery, slavery, poverty"

That seems to be human nature. Your typical warmongers didn't seem to be too bothered when those sorts of things were done to Iraqis, either. Orwell was right.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
Right, Orwell.  Huxley wrote ‘Brave New World’.

Bruno said...

Ahem:

"Additionally, they may also become ignorant to the point of self-deception, as Orwell describes, “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_Nationalism

For example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
As I mentioned recently (at 2:59 PM), our resident provocateur, Bruno, has a habit of seeking out arguments for the sake of having the argument, rather than because he actually has a point.  His post of 7:48 AM, supra, is an example.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Zeyad,

What?! You don't watch the endless hours of Olympic coverage? Okay, so neither do I, but there are a few things I will watch. I always enjoy the beach volleyball for instance.

It sounds like you're a good cook. :) That dish sounds very healthy, as well as tasty. The only thing healthier would be using brown rice.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

So I am finding many interesting things in "Saudi Arabia Exposed".

I didn't realize they had a Saudi version of Stonehenge. It is located just outside Sakaka and is called Al-Rajajil. It has been there for more than 6,000 years, and nobody has been able to figure out what its purpose was.

The Asir region of KSA is not only where most of the 15 9/11 hijackers came from, but is also home to the "flower men". They are men and boys who wear flowers and herbs in their hair and are not adherents to Wahhabism. Women there are known to drive. They actually sound a little bit like our hippies of the '60's. Given their dislike of the extreme Wahhabi doctrine, I would assume that their participation in the 9/11 attacks was a marriage of convenience, a way to strike back at the Saudi regime and the US for having "ahem" a relationship with them.

Zeyad mentioned the Saudis he ran into in San Antonio. Hmmm...yes, apparently they are pretty typical. The reality that this author is seeing is that the Saudis are accomplishing 3 things while here: "get a degree, exploit the sexual opportunities and stock up on consumer goods". Learning about the culture beyond the most superficial is not a goal.

Oh, and sex with infidels is okay because they are, well, infidels. So fair game.

I think I'll have to break this comment as it is getting long...

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I wanted to end with this excerpt:

Because of the complete lack of any kind of youth culture, young Saudis who do not have the means or desire to travel abroad remain, by and large, locked away with their frustration in their bedrooms, watching satellite TV, surfing the web, and contemplating an increasingly difficult life in a kingdom full of unemployment, poverty, repression, and nepotism. That, of course, is great news for radical Islamists, ever-eager to recruit to their ranks young men who have few critical faculties and a crudely simplistic world outlook. With so many youngsters wandering aimlessly into adulthood with increasingly few prospects of a decent job, ruled by a corrupt elite closely aligned to an America the young are told to hate and hold responsible for Israel's ruthless suppression of the Palestinians, the call of the Islamists is not falling on deaf ears. Young Saudis' essentially shallow understanding of Islam, taught by hard-line Wahhabi teachers and clerics, sits in their minds like a highly combustible tinder box, just waiting for a loose spark to set it alight. "Saudi Arabia Exposed" by John R. Bradley

The book was written in 2005, has anything changed?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

You didn't list measurements, Zeyad, for that squash dish. How much of the various ingredients?

Zeyad said...

Hi Lynnette, I use the light green squash, about 4 or 5 large size ones, peeled and sliced in 1-inch pieces, one medium onion, chopped finely, about two teaspoons of curry powder and turmeric each, half a teaspoon of cumin, 2 garlic cloves, salt and black pepper to taste. saute ingredients in olive oil then add enough beef broth (or water or stock) to cover all the ingredients, bring it to a boil and then simmer half covered on medium low for about 40 minutes.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Thanks, Zeyad. :)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Bruno,

Congratulations on the gold medal in swimming. That was a close race.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Going to see a Twins game at Target field today for our work summer outing. We're on the sunny side and it's supposed to be 92 degrees today. I'll probably melt... *sigh*

Bruno said...

Thanks, Lynette, but that was none of my doing. The nicely done monkey broth at 10:58 AM, supra, however, was. I find that boiling the monkey first, helps that nasty pelt just slide off. ;)

Petes said...

Surely you meant troll broth, Bruno?

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
Seems you two are willing to settle these days for just being noticed; more than just settle, publicly declaring your success on just being noticed.  No other point to it.
Interesting, briefly interesting anyway; turns to seeming pathetic rather quickly.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
NBC Nightly News just said that Obama has signed an executive order authorizing ‘US forces’ to offer ‘mostly clandestine’ support to the Syrian rebels.  Sounds like they're trying to say he's authorized some special ops actions if the occasion arises.

Bruno said...

Seems like the monkey - or troll, or both - just hangs around to make pointless comments. I guess that making pointless comments IS a point for it.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery’, or so they say.  What with the world moved on now, I think I'll take the time to observe your attempt at the imitation and appropriation.  And I'll take my bow before I move on too.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Thanks, Lynette, but that was none of my doing.

I know, Bruno, that was a general congrats to South Africa. Merely a normal conversational comment.

Bruno said...

I know you know, Lynnette. I was merely seizing the opportunity to smack ol' swampy over the head again. He's like a caged chimp that you can poke with a stick to freak out. Works every time.

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
Bad Bruno!  Your cohort, Petes is trying to convince people I am the troll here.
You're not supposed to be admitting to doin’ the trolling yourself; blows his whole game outta the water.  (Besides, trolling for no more purpose than just getting yourself noticed is still an entirely pathetic response to my having pointed out that you didn't really have a point to make; so it ain't like it's been a winner for either of ya.)

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Bruno said...

^
Q.E.D.

@1:11pm

   Lee C.  ―   U.S.A.      said...

 
Q.E.D. ?
Bruno, I'm beginning to believe you're lame enough to actually think you pulled that off.
I think that's a good place to leave you.

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