Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Heh

A banner from Cairo today reads, 'the difference between Mursi and Shafiq is like the difference between a disaster and a black disaster.'

16 comments:

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

First!

(And, no, I'm not having hamster for lunch.)

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Is Syria the tipping point pushing the region into sectarian violence? Would foreign military intervention inflame it further or douse the flames?

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

 
The interviewee, Stephen Hadley, was the NSA chief for Dubya.  He was also a neo-con acolyte to Paul Wolfowitz.  (And, so far as I know, still advocates the occasional use of our smaller nukes as ‘tactical weapons’ when they can be fit into the suit.)  He's had a thing ‘bout Syria for a long time now; he's been itchin’ to go whack on the Syrians for years.  I'd tend to view his concern over potential sectarian violence as a matter of having his favored solution (let's go whack Syria) running loose, in search of a problem it can claim to solve.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Might be a moot point, Lee. Russia and China both oppose force in Syria, and I don't know if Obama will oppose them.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

The hidden danger of....Facebook?

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

 
      "Russia and China both oppose force in Syria,
      and I don't know if Obama will oppose
them."

I rather expect he'll not hang us out there opposing Russia and China for the sake of opposing Russia and China.  I do expect he's smarter than that.

I'm all in favor of whackin’ down Assad.  Soon as somebody else wants to hoist their flag over the operation to take out Assad I'm for us gettin’ in on it.  (To whatever extent we got capabilities that they need and can't get filled elsewhere.  I'm good with the ‘lead from behind’ stuff.)  I'm not so much in favor of us jumpin’ out there all on our own and makin’ ourselves responsible for what goes down in Syria.

Zeyad said...

Thanks for the link Lynnette. I shared it ... On Facebook!

Zeyad said...

Also if you think Facebook is bad just wait for Twitter Lolz

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Thanks for the link Lynnette. I shared it ... On Facebook!

lol!

I don't really mean to rag on Facebook, or Twitter. They have certainly done a lot to connect people in regions of the world where there hasn't been enough openness. And it can be fun. :) It's just that there are some aspects to it that kind of bug me.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

[Lee] I rather expect he'll not hang us out there opposing Russia and China for the sake of opposing Russia and China.

I think you're right. And I don't mean to imply that he should. What I don't want to see is hesitation based on not wanting to rock that boat. People in Syria deserve better than that.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

 
      "What I don't want to see is hesitation based on
      not wanting to rock that boat.
"

I can't see that happening either.  The Alewites (for all that they are considered apostates by the Iranian regime) are serving as a proxie for the Iranians.  Pretty much everybody sees that.  The Russians and Chinese find it convenient to support the Iranians to the extent they can get away with it.  This is a large part of the Russian and Chinese support for Assad's regime.  (Not incidentally, they're also interested in increasing their influence in the region independent of the Iranians, and Syria functions as a ready customer for their military hardware, and a source of hard cash denominated in U.S. dollars and in Euros--and the latter is still preferable to holding Russian rubles or Chinese yuan.)  If we could get general international agreement to go do something to Assad Obama would likely be quite pleased to have it widely believed that we pressed the case in the face of stiff resistance from the Chinese and the Russians.  The easiest way for that to become widely believed is if it happens to be true.

      "People in Syria deserve better than that."

I'm not sure who all is behind the Syrian resistance, or exactly what they deserve.  What I am reasonably certain of is that the longer it drags out the longer al-Qaeda and affilliated and similar Islamist groups have to develop a ground game in Syria.  Getting it sorted out sooner is better than later, from our point of view.  Unfortunately, that may not exactly be in the cards for us.  A lot of players in this game; it can go a lot of different ways.  And the longer it drags out the more unpredictable it becomes, and it's none too predictable already.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

 
Today's entry re:  American politics.

Just when I think there's little that's gonna surprise me going forward…
FoxNews, the program ‘Fox and Friends’ has produced and aired its very own four minute political attack ad directed against Obama.  I kid you not; actually produced by FoxNews.
Senior managment has decided to blame ‘an associate producer’ for ‘Fox and Friends’, and to distance themselves from the blowback over this one.  We'll have to waid and see if that excuse holds up.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I'm not sure who all is behind the Syrian resistance, or exactly what they deserve.

Probably any number of groups involved in resisting Assad, not least, as you mentioned, Al-Qaida. When I referred to the Syrians deserving better, I meant those who are trapped in the violence between opposing sides without a way out.

Like it or not, we are in a fight with extremists, like Al-Qaida, that will be fought in various ways. Allowing them inroads in Syria is not in our interests. Nor is it in the interest of the people of the Middle East. Not unless they like dictatorships or authoritarian rule.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

 
You'll wanna look at this.  The Case Against Intervention in Syria By Fareed Zakaria

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Thanks, Lee. I printed it out to read later...

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