Monday, January 30, 2012

HSBC bank heist in New Cairo

From this morning #Hsbc

Egyptians seem to have learned a thing or two from Iraqis


Lynnette In Minnesota said...

Huh! Beat that hamster guy...

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

I don't know, Zeyad, I don't think Iraqis can take credit for the idea of armed bank robbery. Jesse James, for one, beat 'em to it. (Note the Minnesota connection.)

Bruno said...


The Obama administration will begin talks with the Iraqi government on a new long-term defense agreement that may include an expanded number of U.S. troops, according to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s chief policy aide. The scope and depth of the new defense relationship is not decided yet, but the Obama administration is reportedly “open to Iraqi suggestions.”
In order to put more troops in, the Obama administration has had to be very supportive of the Maliki regime, despite a dramatic and violent turn towards dictatorship. American money and weapons continue to flow to Maliki, even as he dismantles the press, attacks political opponents, uses excessive force towards political dissent, and conducts mass arrests and widespread torture. The U.S. wants extra troops in Iraq for several reasons, foremost of which is to serve as bulwark against neighboring Iran, recently the target of increasing aggression. The long-standing American tradition of propping up brutal client states in order to implement imperial designs seems to be repeating once again in Iraq.

Why am I not surprised?

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

      "Why am I not surprised?"

You are not surprised because you so easily vacillate between declarations that Iraq is surrendering to the Iranian influences and declarations that Iraq is a Merkin puppet state, with no sense of disconnect.  Whatever's been said last on is what you'll be goin’ with today.  No tale too incredible for you to believe, so you're pretty much impossible to surprise.  (Some actual creativity at might surprise you, but there's very little danger that's gonna happen.)

Freddie Starr said...

Lynnette in Minnesota ate my hamster!

anan said...

Iraq is much better than Egypt. Safer too. Safer and better than South Africa as well for that matter.

I hope America does send 6 thousand trainers to Iraq under diplomatic visa who can teach at ISF officer and NCO academies. Turkish, Indian, Russian, Serbian, South Korean, French, Chinese trainers would also be welcome.

Iraq has supported the latest Arab League resolution calling for Assad to step down. Good for Iraq. One consequence is that it is more important to strenghten the ISF to protect against Iranian retaliation. And we shouldn't forget those lovely brotherly Saudi neighbors to the South and Jordanian neighbors to the west.

Iraq use to have many tens of thousands of Russian, French, Indian advisors in 1990. Iraq continually had large numbers of international advisors for more than 800 years ending in 1991.

Accusing Maliki of being a dictator? :LOL: Which country is freer and more democratic? Iraq or South Africa? Sinners shouldn't through stones at glass houses.

Um Ayad said...


If you think Iraq is so safe, when are you going to Iraq?

Iraq says another 17 people were executed on Tuesday, days after the UN condemned Baghdad for carrying out a large number of executions and questioned the fairness of trials.
The Iraqi justice ministry says the convicted criminals were punished "according to the law".
This brings the number of executions in Iraq this year to more than 50.

Last week, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, described the situation as "terrifying".
Ms Pillay also said there were "major concerns about due process and fairness of trials".
She also highlighted concerns about forced confessions, pointing out there were no reports of anyone on death row being pardoned.
She was speaking after 34 people were executed in Iraq on a single day - 19 January.

The UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) said last week it believed that at least 63 people have been executed in Iraq in the past two months.
"Trials consistently failed to satisfy international standards for fair trial; defendants frequently alleged that they had been forced to sign 'confessions' under torture or other duress while held incommunicado in pre-trial detention and were unable to choose their own defence lawyers," Amnesty said.

The UN says the total number of people sentenced to death in Iraq since 2004 is believed to be more than 1,200.

Um Ayad said...

Don't go to a football match in Egypt!

At least 74 people have been killed in clashes between rival fans following a football match in the Egyptian city of Port Said.

Scores were injured as fans - reportedly armed with knives - invaded the pitch after a match between top-tier clubs al-Masry and al-Ahly.

Officials fear the death toll could rise further.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

      "If you think Iraq is so safe, when are you going to

Possibly before he schedules a vacation in South Africa?  Ya reckon?

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

More re: American politics

I think the Pope's gonna root for a Republican in the general election.

      "VATICAN CITY [19 Jan 2012] (AP) –
      Pope Benedict XVI says Roman Catholics in the
      U.S. need to understand the ‘grave threats’ to their
      faith posed by what he calls radical secularism in
      the political and cultural arenas.
      "He addressed visiting U.S. bishops Thursday and
      used the same language in warning that attempts
      are being made to erode their religious freedom.
      "Benedict did not explicitly mention it, but the
      bishops have complained their religious freedom is
      eroding in the face of growing acceptance of gay
      marriage and
      "Without explicitly naming President Barack
      Obama, Pope Benedict XVI made it clear today
      that he sees the
[Obama] administration as a
      threat to religious liberty.
      "Long Island, N.Y.[ ― T]he priest took to the
      pulpit to read from an address Pope Benedict XVI
      gave last month to US bishops, in which the pope
      decried ‘radical secularism.’ Benedict did not
      specifically mention Obama’s name, but the priest
      informed parishioners the pope was referring to the
      Boston Globe

Um Ayad said...

Muslim America moves away from the minaret

In post 9/11 America the construction of new mosques in the US has sometimes sparked controversy and even confrontation. Is that why some new Muslim houses of worship are being built without the most recognisable features of Islamic architecture - minarets and domes?

The National Islamic Center in Washington DC is an imposing building with a towering minaret. One of America's iconic mosques, it is surrounded by the flags of the Islamic countries which helped pay for its construction in the 1950s.
Its design was influenced by classical and traditional architecture in Egypt. Akbar Ahmed, a professor of Islamic Studies at American University in Washington DC and one of the world's leading experts on contemporary Islam, says it would be impossible to build such a national mosque today because of the controversy it would arouse.

"It's a bad time for Islamic architecture," says Mr Ahmed, former Pakistani ambassador to the UK.
The Islamic Center of America But the Islamic Center of America in Michigan features imposing traditional domes and minarets
"If there was some visionary with money who wanted to build the Taj Mahal in the US, he'd be attacked as a stealth Jihadist."

For centuries, domes and minarets have been an integral part of the architecture of mosques around the world. But now, Muslim communities are exploring new concepts in the design of their places of worship.
Some are fearful ostentatious architecture could provoke an anti-Muslim backlash. But other Muslim thinkers say mosque designs need to be redeveloped to serve the needs of the growing and diverse American Muslim community....

Bruno said...


Washington must obtain Baghdad's permission to use drones to watch over US facilities in Iraq, the Iraqi government spokesman said on Tuesday, adding he does not believe such a request has yet been made.


The Iraqi parliament on Thursday approved an anti-smoking law that stipulates a roughly $8.50 fine for smoking in public, in a country where such smoking is a fixture. "The law aims to protect citizens from the danger of tobacco and reduce the number of smokers by taking measures to combat this plague," the law reads.

Perhaps the "Iraqi government" might first ensure that Iraqis aren't smoking because they've been set on fire by the various terrorists that plague Iraq, before worrying about cigarettes.

Um Ayad said...

Drones Over Iraq: When is a Pullout not a Pullout?

...Now it seems the world is sold a withdrawal from Iraq which was not quite what it seemed, as presented by the Panetta-Obama-fest in the Baghdad, Fort Bragg speeches of just six weeks ago. At Fort Bragg: "The war in Iraq will soon belong to history …" said the President.

Well, not quite...

Whilst Iraqis are enraged and Iraqi politicians say they have not been consulted, with acting Interior Minister Adnan Al-Assadi stating adamantly: "Our sky is our sky. Not the USA’s", Iraq’s law makers seem to have missed, and the US apparently ignored that formal permission is needed to operate in sovereign air space...

Um Ayad said...


"Perhaps the "Iraqi government" might first ensure that Iraqis aren't smoking because they've been set on fire by the various terrorists that plague Iraq, before worrying about cigarettes."

Thanks for the post. I agree it is "Laughable".

Um Ayad said...

Iraq detains 16 bodyguards of fugitive vice president

...The statement said the guards confessed after being detained, and that the arrests followed confessions by some of their colleagues.

Hashemi’s office denounced the detentions and said it “does not represent anything new in the series of fabricated accusations, and will not attract the attention of the Iraqi people.”

A statement said the guards had previously been told they were not wanted and allowed to go on leave, but were later arrested.

“Is it reasonable that people involved in terrorist activities prefer to return to a site that is sealed off by (security forces) to be arrested, or is it logical for them to take the first chance for them to run away?” Hashemi asked, noting that they had such a chance when they went on leave.

Meanwhile, human rights group Amnesty International said two women employed by Hashemi’s office -- Rasha Nameer Jaafer al-Hussein and Bassima Saleem Kiryakos -- were detained on January 1 and that their whereabouts were not known.

“Amnesty International fears both women may be at risk of torture or other ill-treatment,” Amnesty said, adding that their arrests appeared to be related to their association to Hashemi.

Bruno said...

This will likely blow the simian's teeny brain, as he tried to understand the position of Maliki et al:

"Iraq could seek a waiver from the United States on sanctions on Iran because of its high trade with the neighboring country and to protect its foreign reserves from penalties, an Iraqi government spokesman said on Friday.

The U.S. government in December signed a law imposing sanctions on financial institutions dealing with Iran's central bank, the main channel for its oil revenues and the European Union has also announced a ban on Iranian oil shipments.

Petes said...

[Bruno]: "The U.S. government in December signed a law imposing sanctions on financial institutions dealing with Iran's central bank, the main channel for its oil revenues and the European Union has also announced a ban on Iranian oil shipments."

Thank God Newt Gingrich said that the US could replace any European oil shortfall stemming from an Iranian embargo. :\

P.S. I see Malema is still out on his arse for the time being.

Petes said...

[Lee C] "I think the Pope's gonna root for a Republican in the general election."

For someone so trollishly obsessed with the Pope, y'all should learn somethin' about Vatican protocols. Pigs will fly before the Pope publically endorses a US election candidate. On the other hand, Popes have been decrying secularism since at least the French Revolution.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

Perhaps, come the day of the flying pigs, you'll have noticed in the meantime that the only person who suggested an open public endorsement from the Pope is your own special self.

Um Ayad said...

Gaza: antiquities down a dusty lane

Few outside of Gaza would consider its history much beyond the decades of Israeli occupation. But Gaza is a historical treasure house. Many of those treasures are now in Israeli museums, and those that remain are becoming difficult to preserve due to the Israeli siege. Gaza, set along the historical silk road and on the bridge between Africa and Asia, was host to civilisations, including the Pharaohs, Canaanites, Philistines, Crusaders, Mamluks, Romans and many following. Alexander the Great invaded Gaza; Napoleon Bonaparte passed through...

The Israel Museum has among its collection a broad-based painted chalice taken from Tell al-Ajjul, [one of Gaza’s most important archeological sites]. Pottery manufactured by the Philistines during this period can be seen in the Israel Museum in Jerusalem [he notes that Philistine artifacts were largely unearthed in the Wadi Gaza region].

Asad Ashoor had pointed out that he’s pretty sure Israel’s actions in stealing Palestinian relics and whenever possible destroying historical sites is intentional.

Israel’s goal is a blackout on Palestine’s history and culture. Israel wants outsiders to think only that Gaza is a depressing, dangerous place devoid of culture, history and beauty, and that the main theme here is humanitarian aid.

Um Ayad said...

Taufeek Khanjar becomes 'oldest' new British citizen

Taufeek Khanjar Taufeek Khanjar, is originally from Iraq and worked as a jewellery maker in Baghdad

A 104-year-old man is thought to be the oldest person to have become a new British citizen.
Taufeek Khanjar, who is originally from Iraq and worked as a jewellery maker in Baghdad, came to the UK six years ago to live with his daughter.

After a ceremony at Surrey County Council's headquarters, he said he was "very happy" to be a British citizen.
He said the secret to a long and healthy life was "never get stressed and be relaxed".
He said: "I never lose my temper and whatever happens I take it in my own stride.
"If the world capsized I still wouldn't strain myself.

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

So many people in this forum have posed the question of whether or not our fight in Iraq and Afghanistan was "worth it". On a recent newscast portions of a letter written by one of our servicemen were read. It was only to be opened in the event of his death.

Here are his last words. Please excuse the commercial they insist on running in the beginning of the video.

Petes said...

"Perhaps, come the day of the flying pigs, you'll have noticed in the meantime that the only person who suggested an open public endorsement from the Pope is your own special self."

And perhaps, in the absence of such an endorsement, you'll be able to explain those special Lee insights that lead you to think the Pope will be rootin' for a Republican.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

I see no purpose in belaboring the obvious.

Petes said...

Me neither. But you saw some purpose in stating the obvious at 1:57 PM "supra"... or, rather, in quoting USA Today stating the obvious. You draw a finer line than most between stating the obvious and belabouring the obvious.

   Lee C.  ―  U.S.A.    said...

And your point is…?

Um Ayad said...

US drones kill more civilians than militants.

Get the Data: Obama’s terror drones

As part of its ongoing investigation into the US covert war the Bureau has examined thousands of credible media reports relating to more than 310 Central Intelligence Agency drone strikes in Pakistan.

These incidents were reported by the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Guardian, CNN, ABC News, Reuters, Associated Press, AFP, the BBC, Al Jazeera, and reputable Pakistani media (see bottom table).

CIA drone strikes tend to be reported on a case-by-case basis. Yet it became clear to the Bureau that a number of specific tactics were being deployed. These included multiple attacks by drones on rescuers attempting to aid victims of previous strikes. There were also a number of credible reports of funerals and mourners being attacked by CIA drones...

Um Ayad said...

Egypt says it is to put on trial 43 people - including Americans and other foreigners - over the funding of non-governmental organisations...

Nineteen Americans are among those standing trial.

They are accused of "setting up branches of international organisations in Egypt without a license from the Egyptian government" and of "receiving illegal foreign funding," AFP news agency reports.

The son of US Transport Secretary Ray LaHood is believed to be among those facing criminal charges.

Um Ayad said...

I know who is "savage, despicable and evil". It is this mass murderer a US SEAL!

Evil in the Crosshairs
'I Only Wish I Had Killed More'

Savage, despicable evil. That's what we were fighting in Iraq. That's why a lot of people, myself included, called the enemy "savages." There really was no other way to describe what we encountered there. People ask me all the time, "How many people have you killed?" My standard response is, "Does the answer make me less, or more, of a man?" The number is not important to me. I only wish I had killed more. Not for bragging rights, but because I believe the world is a better place without savages out there taking American lives. Everyone I shot in Iraq was trying to harm Americans or Iraqis loyal to the new government.

And why were they trying to harm Americans? Could it be because Americans invaded and occupied their country?

Lynnette In Minnesota said...

And why were they trying to harm Americans?

You forgot one...and why were they trying to harm Iraqis who were trying to form a government?

Tinnitus Miracle said...

I hate war, Just had to say that. I am sad to see all the violence breaking out throughout Iraq and Egypt. I think that they have managed to steel some of the worst attributes from the Americans. Perhaps we pulled those troops out too fast.